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General Category => Sailing, Handling, Tips and Techniques => Topic started by: RJB on October 15, 2014, 09:17:38 AM

Title: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: RJB on October 15, 2014, 09:17:38 AM
Those of you that have installed the mainsheet cleat - where exactly did you locate it, and how did you fasten it?

Thanks,
Bob
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: Intensitysails on October 15, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
Bennett Yachting has a base you can use on the center foot ridge.  I think everyone that went with the floor block eventually went with off the boom sheeting.  It really does work better once you are accustomed to it.
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: RJB on October 16, 2014, 11:21:06 AM
I have to agree!  Finally got the boat rigged and in the water and went for a sail and the boom sheeting wasn't as bad as I remember from the first time I sailed a VX in January. 
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: Djwpe on October 18, 2014, 11:51:28 PM
Quote from: Intensitysails on October 15, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
Bennett Yachting has a base you can use on the center foot ridge.  I think everyone that went with the floor block eventually went with off the boom sheeting.  It really does work better once you are accustomed to it.

I agree also. I was sure I would hate not having a floor block, so I put it on used it for the first sail, the promptly unreeved the line and haven't looked back.

I suspect I might use it for day sailing or single handing, but I'm not sure.

Don Winston, VX 145
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: kpike on October 20, 2014, 11:55:29 PM
I have one but have not installed it.  Instead I replaced the boom cleat with one that has a set of jaws.  There are times when I need to have both hands available and the jaws allow the main to be cleated while I attend to the situation. 
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: kpike on March 04, 2015, 10:53:21 PM
I have improved the mainsheet cleat.  I tied a piece of paracord through the ratchet selector and around the boom. It keeps the block correctly oriented.  Last week at the sail-a-small-boat day no one had a problem with it. Picture attached of block on boom.  The paracord is small enough that it does not interfere with the ratchet selector travel.
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: Christian H Jensen on January 10, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
Why not just use a pivot block?  [url]https://www.velasailingsupply.com/Carbo-Pivot-Blocks-p/hr2156.htm][url][url]https://www.velasailingsupply.com/Carbo-Pivot-Blocks-p/hr2156.htm (http://[url)[/url][/url]

Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: kpike on January 13, 2017, 01:37:33 PM
Good question.  This has been suggested.  The harken pivot block has a limited cleating angle range which may be a problem.  My layout has more range because the block can swing fore and aft. However it is set up for the skipper to use.  When I have 3 on the boat the mid crew is too far forward to play the mainsheet unless I rotate the cam arm forward.  In addition you will want a ratchet block in the system.  The pivot block does not include that feature therefore you will need to swap one of the other block out to a ratchet. 

The pure dinghy sailors stay with original block.  I give up a little feel for the sail for the convenience of cleating the mainsheet, but I sail more hours than race.
Good luck
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: Christian H Jensen on January 15, 2017, 10:40:43 PM
See your point about angles - but this would only be for singlehanded sailing IMHO - for racing the cleat isn't needed.  It would be fine to have the ratchet block as the forward turning block at the (almost) boom end.

Cheers,

Christian
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: kpike on January 16, 2017, 12:23:49 PM
You are correct. 
Part of the fun for me with this boat has been refining the lines, blocks, etc to make it easy to sail.  When I was younger I could brute force my way along.  Now with my wife as crew it requires a lot more testing of set ups to make it possible for her to control the boat too.  She has half my strength and endurance.  If I want to race I can't wear her out.

Good luck
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: kpike on September 12, 2018, 09:38:54 AM
After this last post I changed to a deck mounted mainsheet cam cleat.  Surprisingly it is a much better solution. The deck cleat was not a tripping problem.  In light air I hold the line above the cleat.  In heavy air leverage to the deck cleat while hiking was better, also a surprise.  Wish I had made this change sooner.
Title: Re: Mainsheet Cleat
Post by: Paul Murphy Annapolis on September 19, 2018, 02:10:49 PM
Hello,

I have a barely used floor Harken ratchet & swivel cleat from barely used #216. Would be happy to sell it cheap.

Paul Murphy
Annapolis.